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Post by why2jay on Apr 26, 2010 10:36:56 GMT -5
To DALLAS Jacob Voracek Nikita Filatov CLB 1st Rnd Pick (4th overall)
for
To COLOMBUS Brad Richards Jamie Benn
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Post by atlantasportsfan on Apr 26, 2010 15:54:22 GMT -5
Are people just making trades just to make a trade??? Teams need to be ran by real fans of the team. I don't know if any Columbus fan would do this.
I'd rather have Voracek than Richards. I'd rather have Filatov AND the 4th overall than Benn.
Seriously. If you think I'm over reacting or bitching and don't want me in the league because of this post, then I will leave. I'm just being a realist and telling it like it is. Voracek is going to be a star if not one already. Richards is getting older. Filatov has potential to be a Semin like goal scorer. 4 overall pick could be Cam Fowler.
Just can't see why Columbus would do this.
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Post by puckguy11 on Apr 26, 2010 16:37:34 GMT -5
This is why I'm so reluctant to sign off on this one: Columbus is basically selling a future core of players to take a salary hike and an unproven prospect. While Richards WOULD provide help for Nash, the core that they have now is a lot less expensive than he is.
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Post by why2jay on Apr 26, 2010 16:45:20 GMT -5
Yeah cause 90- 100 pt 29 year old top line centers come cheap. He wanted someone to play with Nash how hard is that to figure out.
I wanted to shed the salary of a $7.8 top line center and add some youth.
He wanted to Find a Top Line Center to play with Nash.By the way Richards has over 600pts in his career with 447 of them being assists.HMM might help Nash a BIT.Jamie Benn isn't exactly a horrible prospect either by the way.
As of today Voracek(88 career PTS) and Filatov(6 career PTS) are both unproven commodities.
I guess what Im saying is yes It does sound like your JUST bitching. This trade went along way in helping out both of our team needs.
Both Columbus and Dallas finished out of the playoffs why would we not try to make drastic changes in order to improve our franchises?
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Post by why2jay on Apr 26, 2010 16:56:00 GMT -5
One Player left the team to go back to Russia (Filatov) and Jamie Benn for Voracek is basically a wash. Richards contract may suck for columbus but it has one year left and then they can resign him for cheaper. You mean to tell me if CLB had the chance to pick up an ELITE center to play beside NASH that they wouldn't have to pay for it? The draft pick is 4th
So it like this
Brad Richards for Filatov 4th overall
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Jamie Benn For Voracek
I don't get whats so far fetched about this?
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Post by hyperboy on Apr 26, 2010 17:12:37 GMT -5
This is why I'm so reluctant to sign off on this one: Columbus is basically selling a future core of players to take a salary hike and an unproven prospect. While Richards WOULD provide help for Nash, the core that they have now is a lot less expensive than he is. i'm not signing off on this one either too one sided in dallas' favour
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Post by richierich262 on Apr 26, 2010 17:14:52 GMT -5
This league is never going to work if we are going to be overcritical with the trades. Its a fantasy game. Ovechkin for a 5th is farfetched. This is lopsided but thats the point of a trade to better your team. Obviously both gms intentions are that.
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Post by why2jay on Apr 26, 2010 17:26:04 GMT -5
OK this is a FANTASY hockey pool. if you didn't think people where going to get traded you should not have signed up.
Jamie Benn And Voracek Are both proven NHL players something that can't be said for Filatov or the 4th rnd pick yet. Filatov scored scored 22 pts in The KHL this year.
This is going to be absolutly no fun if you guys spend more time making other teams GM decisions then YOUR own.
I also find it funny that puckguy is saying the value isn't there when he himself traded Hall\Seguin For Alzner Flieshmann and two 1st rnd picks both of which Will be 25th pick or higher...
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Post by why2jay on Apr 26, 2010 17:30:00 GMT -5
This Trade makes Columbus good now. It MAKES Dallas better in the future..
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Post by richierich262 on Apr 26, 2010 17:30:57 GMT -5
Just a little sidenote... COLUMBUS is spelt wrong in the title of the thread
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Post by jcoldwell on Apr 26, 2010 18:15:11 GMT -5
Unbelievable. I mean seriously, how bad is this trade? To me it is pretty fair. I win now, and Dallas may win in the future.
Filitov is in the KHL and may not be back in the NHL, or he could come back and not live up to his potential.
Voracek will be good, I will say that. But will he be better than what Richards was or is, who knows.
The 1st round pick could turn out to be Fowler or another player, but seriously, when will that specific pick actually turn out to be a significant force on Dallas? I am guessing 3-5 years, and then who says the pick will pan out. We are all playing the "what if" scenario.
Brad Richards is 29 years old and is still young for a hockey player. He is the type of center that I have been looking for to play with Nash (a play-maker). Does everyone forget that he put up 90 points this season? To get a player like that to put up those numbers you will have to pay to get it and I did.
How many 90 point players were in the NHL this year? 7 players that's how many. Out of those 7 players how many were centers? 5 were. So if you think about that, based on points alone, Richards was the 5 best center in the NHL for the 2009-2010 season. Yes even better than Joe Thornton (who had better players to play with), along with Parise, Marleau, Semin, Gaborik (just to name a few).
Everyone has to open their eyes to every aspect of why a GM in this league does a trade. I mean who would have thought that Wayne Gretzky would have got traded out of Edmonton, and then end his career playing for 4 NHL teams. If one of the best players can get traded in the NHL then I am pretty sure that Columbus (NHL) would trade Voracek and Filitov. No one is untradeable.
As for Jamie Benn, he is 20 years old, is a powerforward in the very near future. And in his rookie season put up 41 points. That would be 5th best for rookies in the NHL only behind, Duschene, Tavares, Myers and Bergfors. To me that say alot.
Benn will also be on the top line playing along side, Nash and Richards.
So maybe I do know what I am doing when it comes to trades. Like I said earlier, people have to realize what is going each way and why a gm did the trade.
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Post by radiohead on Apr 26, 2010 18:17:37 GMT -5
Only at HF are prospects more valued than a proven star.
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Post by richierich262 on Apr 26, 2010 18:22:07 GMT -5
We either have to stop being so critiical and let teams do what they want **within reason** or cancel this league
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Post by why2jay on Apr 26, 2010 18:30:07 GMT -5
Unbelievable. I mean seriously, how bad is this trade? To me it is pretty fair. I win now, and Dallas may win in the future. Filitov is in the KHL and may not be back in the NHL, or he could come back and not live up to his potential. Voracek will be good, I will say that. But will he be better than what Richards was or is, who knows. The 1st round pick could turn out to be Fowler or another player, but seriously, when will that specific pick actually turn out to be a significant force on Dallas? I am guessing 3-5 years, and then who says the pick will pan out. We are all playing the "what if" scenario. Brad Richards is 29 years old and is still young for a hockey player. He is the type of center that I have been looking for to play with Nash (a play-maker). Does everyone forget that he put up 90 points this season? To get a player like that to put up those numbers you will have to pay to get it and I did. How many 90 point players were in the NHL this year? 7 players that's how many. Out of those 7 players how many were centers? 5 were. So if you think about that, based on points alone, Richards was the 5 best center in the NHL for the 2009-2010 season. Yes even better than Joe Thornton (who had better players to play with), along with Parise, Marleau, Semin, Gaborik (just to name a few). Everyone has to open their eyes to every aspect of why a GM in this league does a trade. I mean who would have thought that Wayne Gretzky would have got traded out of Edmonton, and then end his career playing for 4 NHL teams. If one of the best players can get traded in the NHL then I am pretty sure that Columbus (NHL) would trade Voracek and Filitov. No one is untradeable. As for Jamie Benn, he is 20 years old, is a powerforward in the very near future. And in his rookie season put up 41 points. That would be 5th best for rookies in the NHL only behind, Duschene, Tavares, Myers and Bergfors. To me that say alot. Benn will also be on the top line playing along side, Nash and Richards. So maybe I do know what I am doing when it comes to trades. Like I said earlier, people have to realize what is going each way and why a gm did the trade. Yeah!! Totally what He Said.
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Post by richierich262 on Apr 26, 2010 18:33:57 GMT -5
Noone is in this league to wreck their own team...every gm has intentions on why they do deals...they may not be clear to the big mouths of the league but everyone wants to better their team. This is a MOCK...
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